[Affirmative.] Would you add Charles to that list? For all other types of cookies we need your permission. MIJA RIEDEL: Now would you take chainsaw, as well, or whatever the saw was that Sam was describing and cut them up that way? NEIL WILLIAMS: And there's not the stress of having to try and figure it out, or trying to push in an area that "Oh my gosh, I'm not going to survive unless I go after this." NEIL WILLIAMS: or at least proposes thosesuggests those. Mothers with Alzheimer's and his grandmothers with Alzheimer's. It's amazing some of that stuff was made and successfully made and not a piece got broken, and there was hundreds and hundreds of body parts travelling across country and for ceramics as a material, it traveled well, and it was successful, and it was tremendous. Beautiful form. NEIL WILLIAMS: But he liked them and started buying them from Betty Asher. NEIL WILLIAMS: And he was a battlefield medic in Vietnam, and he's got this amazing aura about him. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, that carried on. But those kinds of thingstalk about being surrounded by angels. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes. MIJA RIEDEL: Yeah. NEIL WILLIAMS: So that kind of thing. MIJA RIEDEL: That's extremely unusual, I think. [Laughs.] So, I mean, "immortality" might be a little grandiose, but it's all inI think how you want to be remembered, what you want to leave behind. So, there is something that's stimulating and it's not something that I want to obsess over or completely give a lot of energy to. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: But it's an intoxicant, like we had talked about it. His tangents were always really fascinating to me, when he would go off onand then, he would just run out of gas and say, "There; I'm done. MIJA RIEDEL: It's so funny because Rena just told the story very similar to that, it was the same conversation, Shaw and Arneson, I can't remember who she thought made the comment. MIJA RIEDEL: Yeah. Mario Ferrante spent time on a one-summer workshop with Wayne Thiebaud up in Lake Tahoe. Tweets & replies. Pheasants, and, hawks, and turkeys, and eagles, and owls, and hummingbirds, and all kinds of varieties of birds. But those two especially made me feel very comfortable, NEIL WILLIAMS: and very appreciated, and it really helped to validate that I was on the right track with my work. And someone else said, "It's 90 percent labor and 10 percent magic." . MIJA RIEDEL: [. [Affirmative.] And really articulate. It's work, and artists always consider their stuff work. But, she wasn'tunless you were working for her, there was noit wasn't like a good, you know, it wasn't like a good, close friendship. NEIL WILLIAMS: And he had a Picasso he had inherited from his father. And I owned a gallery in Sacramento briefly. And ultimately, that's what Violet had touched on earlier. Some cookies are placed by third party services that appear on our pages. I did things like Rosen [ph], I did Lincoln Center. [Laughs.]. I remember one of the great stories about that, about making so much work wasoh my God, when she had an open party, like a little dinner party and Richard Shaw and Arneson and Manuel Neri had come and a bunch of other people, and Rena Bransten, and, of course, who luckily was repping her by then, NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, because I just think it wasI just think the world of Rena and I. It's serious life-force work, and if it's good it's all-consuming and it works on multiple levels. MIJA RIEDEL: Both. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, it was always, like she saidagain coming out of the Crocker retrospectivewhich was our first major, like, together, helping her install pieces because there-she had stuff delivered there that I hadn't seen before, and was like, "Will you put all this stuff together?" NEIL WILLIAMS: And, then I realized later onan analogy for how she hoarded images, too. And it's something that, if you were able tohowever they needed to work through it, who knows what could have come from them? NEIL WILLIAMS: So, it's like Picasso said, it took him what, sixty years to learn to draw like a child again? Like even when I do production work, or picturing other pieces I'd like to explore. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, she sacrificed a lot to be able to do her work butso. NEIL WILLIAMS: It wasas it is in the sense that the clay environment can be very comfortable, and Viola used to talk aboutand I agreethat clay people are more of friends and family, and it's more of a communal thing, pot shops are. They worked alone, and they were more isolationists. They're still around. And it'sI don't run around feeling proud of it, but I guess I am. NEIL WILLIAMS: It was elusive; it was not subtle. Museum, is through Stphane and his donations, too. MIJA RIEDEL: So respect by significant peers. Before they went to just color field, and more of a wash water color block of areas of color. Some people here say, when they see them, "Oh, it's a little mad hatter's teapot." Uh-huh. 0 0000112045 00000 n 0000004841 00000 n 0000001196 00000 n All information including race fields and TAB It's like another great thing I learned that I certainly borrowed from biology, talked about clay and mark making, and how making marks in clay, you're starting to develop your own vocabulary by doing that. . However, that experience also helped her better understand the Saviors Atonement. NEIL WILLIAMS: TheI know some of the first endearing works that everyone was raving about, it wasand of course sheyou saw them immediately, you would be grabbed by them, were the grandmother figures in floral dress. NEIL WILLIAMS: You know, she didn't press her to make a certain line of work. I said, "You're kidding me." NEIL WILLIAMS:like, get along really well with anyone. The world is full of information and influences entertainment, social media, the internet, philosophies from every direction. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it'sand it's perversely somewhat true. NEIL WILLIAMS: Just humiliate them, ridicule them until they get it. NEIL WILLIAMS: wasn't as finished, and it seemed driven by a need and a compulsion to keepto keep working, to keep building, to keep itkeep it big andso, I don't know if that helps answer that question. But, Rena was a lifeline and an essential part of, I think, why Viola was able toshe really helped Viola blossom. Maybe if you would walk me through how the work comes about. [Affirmative.] I mean she'd give up anything to make art. And, I understand she has since passed, but last I heard, there was an amazing cache of two floors or three floors of antiques and such that are kind of lying dormant. MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking culturallyhow you learned ceramics so early on and worked with a fellow who studied in Japan, the feeling about ceramic pots there is completely different. Where you went to school and what that was like? I didn't feel her thrillshe was feeling that thrill about them. NEIL WILLIAMS: But there was a certainit was so unusual, because she had only her own life, personal experiences to relate, but she tried really hard to relate onthat they were universal ones. I always thought it was a resource, but Ihad a lot of private students. But before she passed away, she kept talking about "I have one of Neil's mother's drawings. And thenbut even after a time she spent with Diebenkorn and Rothko in a magnificent artists and painters, sheI know she liked being around the pot shop. Was it Peter Voulkos' mom who kept telling him, "Just work hard and you'll be fine. And his point was, youI forget who it was, the writerhis point, you remove yourself. NEIL WILLIAMS: It was a very unique one. I would relish the opportunity of working with Neil in the future. She said, "You know, it's all about the magic that happens in the studio, and everything else is secondary, and either manageable or tolerable. And so, that was just overwhelming to me, that some of those same people wereI mean, like, Betty Asher and her cup fetish, NEIL WILLIAMS: that Asher formand I remember, because meeting her through installing Viola's show and realizing she had the cup fetish, and, "Oh my gosh, I make little cups." So, that's how these have evolved and stayed interesting. I almost have many times in life, but I'm not going to. And they would go off in otherall kinds of different directions, andI remember one exercise, she had us do in a student environment, was making a still-life; bringing objects in; making a still-life, drawing it, then sculpting it in clay, and then photographing it, so that you had that experience of two, three-dimensional and building a still-lifecontemplatingresourcing and contemplating the image, and then picking it apart, putting it back together. [Affirmative.] And it's just like dealing with any person's life, if they're elderly or if they're passing young. It's just the cuts, they've gone from straight-line horizontal-vertical planes to diagonal and to curvilinear shapes. There was something not aswasn't as detail-concentrated. It was maybe a dozen or 15 of them. MIJA RIEDEL: And was this was when you were already working as her assistant? I never liked work that just picked you up and left you there. And they were always done in pairs. Consistent need to tell a story with a number of images that keepkept repeating throughout. Not just everyone who wanted to grab her once they saw this incredible cache of artwork in her backyard. There were people helping along the line. And it'll jump up, a little bit. NEIL WILLIAMS: place to be. And I was like, "Oh my God.". They are sanded to eliminate throwing lines on the exterior, so there's the contour lines and the surface is homogenized. So, there was ahealthy push, not a lot of information but a healthy push, and a reassurance that is was okay to pursue this. I mean, go figure that. NEIL WILLIAMS: But I guess she had to go with it. So that's whatyou know, you stay in complete embrace with it, you make something, paint something, you spill your soul to it, whatever it takes, and then you have to let go. Neil Williams. Besides how grateful I am to be here, and be able to look back in retrospect andI just thoughtone of the things I thought, I was saying to my wife this morning that, it seems like I've done more in my life so far than I'm aware of. But, there was stuff that got taken. And I had a larger studio, and they said, "Do you do any workshops?" [Laughs. NEIL WILLIAMS: Nothing that's going to be profound or, MIJA RIEDEL: [Laughs.] How it's changed over time, how it started. "I'm going to the studio to work, not to play." She had some issues in other areas, but shewas really good in some critical aspects of life that luckily rubbed off on me. MIJA RIEDEL: Hopefully all these interviews, especially [in relation MR] to Viola, built together, will give us a much more complete understanding of her work, and career, and character. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: So I think that was a goodreal healthyshe needed to be in a teaching environment too. MIJA RIEDEL: Anybody you care to mention? What a gent. A little more than 50 years ago, Elder Neil L. Andersen returned to his familys small dairy farm in Idaho after completing his mission to France. He's been really a wonderful, positive impact in my life. And some of those things I couldI mean I could reproduce when I was 16 years old and there wasthere was something easy about it and it didn'tI don't know. And he was very fascinated by them, them being clustered and so. Speaking from his own experience, the Apostle shared six ways individuals can strengthen their faith in Jesus Christ throughout their lives. And now, Grandma Maria is going to give a blessing before theand then Sam said she sat there a little, and she yelled out, "No!" MIJA RIEDEL: Not to digress, but a quick question: when I look at your work, I'm shocked that it doesn't crack in the firing process. That's helpful. John Q Public (c Proud Citizen) Winner at 2, US$106,770, 2d Kentucky Downs Juvenile S., L, 3d Belmont Paradise Creek S., L, 4th Saratoga Special S., Gr.2. Interviewer Mija Riedel (1958- ) is an independent scholar and writer in San Francisco, California. . MR]you were talking about the importance of family to her. He did all of those California specials where he'We're in Auburn, and we're'- and he goes through and interviews people about the history. make sure the graphviz executables are on your systems' path. I'm part-time caregiver to him now. But I know he really fed her a lot of reinforcement in what she was doing. Analytics cookies help website owners to understand how visitors interact with websites by collecting and reporting information anonymously. NEIL WILLIAMS: And she was very encouraging, but sheher quip was "Eventually, you can go back and get your masters, and I can send you anywhere in the country for graduate school on my recommendation." And she was tenacious. It filledI think what it is, the youngest of four boys, by the time I came around, my mother had nothing left [Laughs.]. MIJA RIEDEL: Now, would you describe your childhood? You could tell she reallythat was ashe was driven by that. Monday-Friday, excluding Federal holidays, by appointment. Elder Andersen shared a quote by President Dallin H. Oaks, first counselor in the First Presidency, who taught, Members who forgo Church attendance and rely only on individual spirituality separate themselves from these gospel essentials: the power and blessings of the priesthood, the fulness of restored doctrine, and the motivations and opportunities to apply that doctrine.. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. I've always known it's good. So, that could bea metaphor for such. Do you know the horticulturalist's name? I didn't think a lot of artists worked that way. NEIL WILLIAMS: Which are operations guys. NEIL WILLIAMS: Ijust looking back when you were asking questions about my past and stuff, I don't think about that much. ], MIJA RIEDEL: That's right, and particularly in Oakland. NEIL WILLIAMS: Mm-hmm. He was playing music with some friends, and "How could you not show up to such a prestigious honor?" MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. Victor Building MIJA RIEDEL: And so I'm trying toyour father was an engineer? I am, and I. NEIL WILLIAMS: and a pair because of, you know, the connotations of pairing, and hopefully the intimacy thatand the negative shape between the two was really important. Prayer is vital to faith in Jesus Christ. I have to carve away certain layers as it dries, so it holds its shape and its form, and doesn't collapse. And it changed their lives. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, some of the people who have come out of that program areit's just silly. But they were. NEIL WILLIAMS: And yeah, she's a good partner. I got to back out and work for her, orbut he washe was ahe was a treat. It naturally evokes those, because it's so hands-on, it's so tactile. "Ah, that makes sense to me. I think it was a hand with a carrot mold piece, and then she wanted to do a whole figure in bronze, and paint it in alkyd oils and it justforit sat and she painted it for a while, and it was outdoors. MIJA RIEDEL: Which is nowhere near so little. NEIL WILLIAMS: She was very good about directing what the good work from the bad work, and what had longer running time, and more interest, I think, in the long run as far as what would stay engaging for me. I don't want that to be too decorative. And that was my skill thatI mean we all have our saving graces. But, so as far as fitting into the bigger picture of the art world, the American art market, American art world, I justit's pretty simple. But. WebWe would like to show you a description here but the site wont allow us. [Affirmative.] This is a woman that did this work! [. MIJA RIEDEL: These are exquisitely beautiful pieces, and I can seeif this is what you were doing already in high school, why. NEIL WILLIAMS: I remember when it showed up, it was all bright and it was a metal bronze thing and I mean, they were okay. 0000011773 00000 n
So there was a. But sheespecially if she was tired or nervous, she would jump around and, you'd never know what would come out of her mouth. Interviewee Neil Williams (1959- ) is an artist from Auburn, California. I don't know why. Butit wasa very different relationship. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, it was a great testament to what an amazing educator Thiebaud was, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, and a few that have gone through his program that have gone on to study at Davis or,Berkeley or elsewherethat yeah, I still stay in touch with them. That has happened. [Laughs.]. Neil Williams always brought light to every room entered. So, I don't know if hoarding is generational? He did some time forlet me see, just dealing in weed or something. But no, it was worth it. . You're surrounded by it. So, long before you were graduating high school, and there are, MIJA RIEDEL: dozens of them, and clearly the Japanese influence is very. I think they should have it. I said, "What is that?" That might fit into some selfish aspect of it too, which maybe Cheri was touching on last night with Viola, but good artists have to beI don'tmaybe I'm not selfish enough to be a great artist, I don't know. Sowas it somehow familiar to you? NEIL WILLIAMS: that she said at one point she would have gone nuts if she spent too much time going back with all theyou knowfine little details on the big men, she would losethey would lose their vitality, she thought. You'll be redirected to related page soon Don't have an account? MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. Is there any relationship between your production work and your one-of-a-kind pieces? There might be an analogy for that, that. And I hope it doesn't lose any edge it may have. So they all came, and at the end of four weeks, they said, "Do you mind continuing"well, they stayed for five years. NEIL WILLIAMS: I always thought the bottom line, Viola just did them because they were flipping fun for her to make. NEIL WILLIAMS: that surrounds all of us, thatI mean, to me, I see the vital energy as, in context of Viola's work, it'sand why I like color so much, and her impact on me, is thatto me, it's the vital energy. But he even came across the sculptures of Dr. Fox, which are laughable, but they're amusing. And Squeak said it really well, too. ", MIJA RIEDEL: I actually had a question about that, too. [Laughs.] NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, isn't thatI mean, isn't thatcommon with all of us? MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: Similarities are consistent vessel and volume study. She actually kind of stalked it, but. The power and blessings of the priesthood, including those found in the temple, are essential. MIJA RIEDEL: That actually leads beautifully to this next question, which is, do you think there's a difference between artists that are trained in a university and artists that learn another way? Looking back 50 years later, will your faith in the Savior be the most powerful force that moved you forward? Media. NEIL WILLIAMS: You don't. "No, I'm not. NEIL WILLIAMS: And itwe talked about itthe lan vital, the vital energyI was getting that back from the pieces. What else did you see, while you were there, as significant influences on her or her work? It was really interesting. MIJA RIEDEL: And are they standing still? MIJA RIEDEL: When you say great European work, what do you mean? NEIL WILLIAMS: There are no profound "Oh my God, I need to do a 90-degree or a 180 on something.". They go to social media, or they go to people who dont believe in the Church and that can totally destroy their faith. I bless you as you keep Him central in your life, all will be well., Subscribe for free and get daily or weekly updates straight to your inbox, The three things you need to know everyday, Highlights from the last week to keep you informed. You have to understand thermo-dynamics. I understand and respect how hard it is for good dealers to do what they do, and I've always been a real piece of cake to deal with for any of them, but I don't know, maybe I'm just not pushy enough. But, no, I always considered, I'm proud to be an American artist, yeah, or workingor the ability to work as an artist in relative safety. He said he knew that he would survive going to Vietnam, he had no doubt. If he would have called and said, "Where's my work, where's my work," he wouldn't have gotten the best out of an artist that way. Does it bringhave their been unexpected. 0000054048 00000 n
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So many great artists have considered their work studies, the variations. $1 Million $5 Million. He was going to donate fantastic paintings, and it's like, "Well, but you have Motherwell's all over the place in storage." But Viola and Charles' relationship is, like I say, more of artists and sharing the same space, and in mutually enriching each other's lives. NEIL WILLIAMS: Spent some time even with Thiebaud on some workshops. But it's still there and it's still really highly motivational soI'm sorry, what was the original question? NEIL WILLIAMS: Travelyeah, so I love to go to museums, I love to do that. MIJA RIEDEL: Rena talked about [a trip MR] she and Viola took back east, and sending [Viola and Patterson MR] on a train to New York together, coming up with a reason that she couldn't go so they would have a chance to chat. And, she wasvoracious. MIJA RIEDEL: So would she take to you to museums, would she. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: And it worked and it made sense, so. 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